Dear Anonymous who commented on how, what bad spelling! (See that bothers me infinitely more than the comments repealed once against capoeira ... for Cthulhu, if they want to insult me \u200b\u200bat least try to show that the primary ended!) In the first instance I want to thank you for taking the time to both read and to comment on my blog. I knew the topic would generate some controversy and upset if it was read by the people I mentioned at the beginning of the trial. I think I need to explain and illustrate much of what I had thought my points, but it is part of keeping a blog this. Beforehand I remember trying to be as objective and polite as possible to discuss these ideas, which are my own and not those of anyone who practices capoeira, and that the purpose is only to share my point of view, not yours to force change if different from mine. So let's point by point: You say
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a) if it were a martial art that eh never seen anyone dancing like capoeira in the ufc, and with this comment I anticipate your response where you tell me that ufc is a tournament with rules and blablabla, perhaps, but it's more real to a lawsuit in today, and I remember their early rules did not exist and there was where all the art marcailistas got approval and saw no one of capoeira,
Answer: It's funny that you stand so my answer. It is a cheap resource of discussion that should never be worth much. As I write I realize your very incomplete knowledge and great ignorance of the MMA. First whether there are fighters in the UFC and many other MMA leagues where capoeira is present. Some people use it exclusively, mixing it with other techniques to JiuJitsu Brazilian soil, but if I want to argue that is not used then surely you do not know the current middleweight champion Anderson Silva the UFC. I keep these links since they started (at the time of Frank Abbott and Royce Gracie) and believe me that capoeira has been present, although I admit it is a fact, not commonly seen. I recommend you see WEC, IFL, RIO-heroes, MECA, Strikeforce, DREAM and the old PRIDE FC fights. In all I saw capoeira participating in events. In the only league where it touched me to see them is in K-1. And apart Are Saying that they are the closest thing to a lawsuit in reality? I beg to differ with you, but a bout of Keysi, the combat of Krav Maga, Spetsnaz, Combat Sambo and Kajukembo are much more like that than those of MMA. With all due respect, take out the rear head and to learn about driving a car, and not playing Mario Kart - to fight street to street fighting learn. MMA is a combat sport. That's why I have more fear of a fight with a giant le ranch 60 years or 18 years cholo all the Apollo drugged or Pimentel (or anyone else of Tepito, those who are having fun watching to see Filer who holds more tummy) that muscular guy with a black cnturón Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai fighter. Kills Street Dojo.
b) in order if you're on the side of the capoeira is for the streets and real life and you want to hide in that cave where several systems are hidden with arguments like "is it real" "is that no street there are rules "is used to kill later but still a baseless argument.
R.: Now is your way of discussion is predicting I'll say. But no, here we are in complete agreement for I will not take that path. This is one of the silliest arguments common and easy to refute a Mc Dojo: "My martial arts do not show it in public because to touch you die" ... Seriously, DO NOT suck. This is so frudulento as false and academies where you say that you are able to defend yourself from 3 subjects in the street or from someone armed with a guarantee of victory, and you will learn in two months if you pay ten thousand pesos. O that give you magical powers to launch hadokens . Capoeira (and martial arts in general, the hell!) is not for the streets is to Rhodes, where there are rules, play areas, a battery of musical instruments which commands the rhythm, pace and aggression of the game. So you see it was never my intention to imply that capoeira is "for streets and real life, do not put words in my mouth friend. What we do argue and say is that what you learn to practice it (or any other serious martial arts) is useful in a street fight ... I thought I had been very clear with that, but sorry, I see no. And that was the main point of my previous text * sniff *: '(
c) Another point that I found Interestingly, compare the artistic side marcialescon other capoeira gear, and of course I have but remember that both are forms like karate capoeira is dancing, there kumite in karate while in the capoeira ... There is dancing, kung fu if there are ways, but there sanda (fighting), meaning that most martial arts looks VISIBLE implemented or that is the way to demonstrate its usefulness, that is why the capoeira still lacks the practical test, because in life that I have ever seen eh a capoeira seriously dangerous, but REALLY dangerous, of course eh seen their drills (dances) very beautiful and artistic, but never touch bone or knock etc etc in other martial arts.
R.: Another clarification more than I do - if you read carefully you will notice that not compare the artistic side of martial arts: I mentioned that exists, that there are present very characteristic elements or rituals (like element wobble in the ginga capoeira) in them that help us to tag them for identification, I never said they were just that or it was reduced to how to measure its effectiveness. I know in there karate kumite, which is Sanchou wushu and Sanda, but that does not mean that because IT has touched you only see part of "forms" of capoeira does not exist, the contact portion and can be seen see in detail in a class, I invite you to attend not one, but several so that you develop an educated opinion. A good example of how limited are your vision is still with this metaphor: I bet you never touch or be touched visibly and in person in front of a million dollars, yet I assure you no doubt that so much money there ... curious to know why so I doubt that capoeira can be a practical part only because you have not seen. Or worse, imagine this ... Maybe you've seen, but you did not notice! Of course you play and beat! The one you do not see it because just because you're not so familiar does not mean it's not there. It would be like say that in TaeKwon Do Karate or break boards and bricks only because it is what we see on the exhibitions that make ... I put in a difficult situation to show you that if there is combat contact with keys and all-within-a look at the alleged dance. Especially because you challenge me with a bias. Ah! And you see little or no contact is, as I wanted to emphasize and obviously failed, one of the virtues of this system: the focus of all the movements are always escaping, raising the escape, deception and dodge preferential level on blocks or deflections of an attack.
d) To end my only comment is the arguments in the present are all these tournaments and events that test the martial arts and there are competitors from various martial arts and never eh never seen anyone do capoeira.
R. ("Argument? What?) Again my dear anonymous entity, sadly only highlight and reveal little and superficial your knowledge about tournaments, competitions and martial arts tests that comment. I swear by the bimbo bear it if people participating in them. And I remember that MMA is not UFC only because this is a league in the world of mixed martial arts. Do you know Marcus Vinicius, Andre Gusmao, English Jean Silva, Marcus "Lelo" Aurelio? "Anderson Silva? Here in Hermosillo is performed event called "Night of the Gladiators" where people who have participated in capoeira.
e) Pd I'm not against capoeira I love to see the exhibits and I think it has its difficulty and complexity, but I think it is a martial art, I think it's a dance or martial simulation. And if you can prove otherwise will thank you upload a video or something.
A.: For the second time, thank you for your respect by recognizing that not every facility that the stunt, but I think everything is distorted after you've thrown. (And indeed, here among us, you're leaving unscreened for the decorations and not the good part of capoeira) And here lies the difference in our views. You not only do not believe, not believe that capoeira contains useful elements of martial arts. And my intention was never to force you to change your point of view - if you decide to go on believing that fact as true, believe me, you're very free to do so, and nobody in the world should judge you for believing different things that I believe. I just presented a series of ideas founded on personal experience, believe me, I come to study other systems formally Oriental martial arts (ITF TaeKwon Do and Wing Chun Wushu) and was extremely skeptical about capoeira. In fact, my main motivation was to commit to train myself to do something less fag to aerobics or gym to lose the belly, and at first he was there almost reluctantly and with great shame.
So despite this, with no intention to "show you" nothing but to share an activity that became a pleasant surprise when I realized I was wrong are some videos where you see both tournaments as a contact in Capoeira Capoeira which are mixed martial arts fighters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBi-X1XzmXI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4vrRTQMQog
http://www.youtube.com / watch? v = Jl-_6xwtuU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMX9KKzG4-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0KfQE2-ZqA
and more, so do not say I'm giving ball start a fight where you drive a mother to a lot of acrobatics to go by in the ring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8FJyScbV6s
In order to close this comment I once again: Capoeira is a martial art. It is a system, discipline, a form of cultural expression (or whatever you call it) that within includes aspects includes techniques of a martial art.
Let me extend once again: Imagine if to have to learn Kyokushin Karate require you not only train but to speak Japanese, learn about specific periods of Japanese history as the political changes of the prohibition Meiji and Tokugawa era, tea ceremony, playing the Koto and Taiko drums, singing and Kabuki theater, studying religion Shinto or Zen Buddhism. . and you get an approximation of what would be a Japanese version of Capoeira for the study. It should be much more aware of culture and the people who founded the system rather than just the militant movements.
That's why I hardly think you will see people participating in MMA tournaments with a unique capoeira background: To be competent and achieve a decent level or belt black in some combative martial arts of the East only required maybe 4 to 5 years with natural talent and dedication. If I remember correctly, to one of the sacred figures of lifestyle samurai, Miyamoto Musashi, wrote that it takes 10.000 days training hard to throw your first swipe. It took me six months to a string of second graduation (amarela) in Capoeira. People who undertakes to examine this rarely has an interest (or time) to walk with simple "for my martial art is better than yours" - simply because there is a martial art, again, only includes a technical of its aspects.
Extra: Video of a roda Mestre Nem, Capoeira with hard contact ...
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